Isambard Crater

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  If Elders and Ministerial Servants did what Michael Fallon has done, few would remain

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  over the years i have seen plenty of elders and ministerial servants touch other j.w's knees, thighs, give very long and intimate hugs, blah, blah, blah.

  i know of other sisters who have felt really uncomfortable with such behaviour, but the brothers have just explained that they're being loving as caring christian friends, so they get away with it.

  it angers me that no j.w's will speak out about historic or ongoing inappropriate touching for fear of being disfellowshipped or losing the hope of paradise..

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  Over the years I have seen plenty of Elders and Ministerial Servants touch other J.W's knees, thighs, give very long and intimate hugs, blah, blah, blah. I know of other Sisters who have felt really uncomfortable with such behaviour, but the Brothers have just explained that they're being loving as caring Christian friends, so they get away with it. It angers me that no J.W's will speak out about historic or ongoing inappropriate touching for fear of being Disfellowshipped or losing the hope of paradise.
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  Today's W.T when it mentioned Depression and Anxiety

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  our co-ordinator put his hand up and commented saying that people who go on about how depressed or anxious they are just need to stop giving in to impulses and show more self control without letting their emotions rule their lives.. if anyone from the media, a government agency or some other public body heard a comment like that, they'd have a hard time exercising self control over the rubbish this elder spouted, which my friends and family with genuine depression found insulting..

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  Our Co-ordinator put his hand up and commented saying that people who go on about how depressed or anxious they are just need to stop giving in to impulses and show more self control without letting their emotions rule their lives.

  If anyone from the Media, a Government agency or some other public body heard a comment like that, they'd have a hard time exercising self control over the rubbish this elder spouted, which my friends and family with genuine depression found insulting.
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  Hypocrisy in tomorrow's WatchTower study

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  paragraph 15 says.... 15 besides abusive speech, the practice of lying is also a trait of the old personality.

  for example, it is common for people to lie on tax returns or to lie to avoid taking responsibility for their sins.

  by contrast, jehovah is “the god of truth.” (ps.

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  Paragraph 15 says...

  15 Besides abusive speech, the practice of lying is also a trait of the old personality. For example, it is common for people to lie on tax returns or to lie to avoid taking responsibility for their sins. By contrast, Jehovah is “the God of truth.” (Ps. 31:5) Therefore, he requires that “each one” of his worshippers “speak truth with his neighbor” and “not lie.” (Eph. 4:25;Col. 3:9) Thus, we must tell the truth even if it may be embarrassing or inconvenient.​—Prov. 6:16-19.
  

  Erm, the Borg has always avoided taking responsibility for its sins and not told the truth because it's embarrassing when it comes to child abuse.
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  Special event this weekend

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.

  any idea what it is?

  they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..

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  So no congregations in the U.K. are showing it live this weekend, or playing a recording the day after, like they have done in previous years?
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  Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

  http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

  for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

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  Interesting, Phizzy

  Is there any commentary or analysis of it that you can point me to online?
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  Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

  http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

  for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

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  The authenticity of the old testament account of Solomon is being called into question in the news media:

  http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/

  For the most-part, I don't really want to believe the Bible as true, certainly not the J.W version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. But there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by God, if he or she exists. It's the one about Alexander the Great's power going to four generals, as J.W's are told was foretold in Daniel:

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/october-2017-mwb/meeting-schedule-oct9-15/jehovah-foresaw-future-of-kings/

  I guess Daniel's statue always makes me stop and think too because of how the J.W's say the feet are fragmented coalition governments, which we have definitely seen more of in recent times politically.

  I'm pretty much looking for someone to shoot these Daniel prophecies down but am open to all ideas.
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  Has Philippians 4 versus 6 and 7 actually helped anyone?!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if i received a dollar for every time an elder had told me to read and meditate on this scripture over the years, i would be really wealthy.

  maybe when i was a kid, scriptures like this made me feel a little bit better, but once i had learned ttatt and also lost my faith in god, or at least the borganization's version of god, scriptures like phil 4 versus 6+7 do nothing for me, but they are always, always quoted in public talks about depression, or during shepherding visits..

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  If I received a dollar for every time an elder had told me to read and meditate on this scripture over the years, I would be really wealthy. Maybe when I was a kid, scriptures like this made me feel a little bit better, but once I had learned TTATT and also lost my faith in God, or at least the Borganization's version of God, scriptures like Phil 4 versus 6+7 do nothing for me, but they are always, always quoted in Public Talks about Depression, or during Shepherding Visits.
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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  The badges given out were the same as all the other J.W's wore. This year, because of the Manchester concert bomb and other events, security at R.C's was tightened up so everyone had to wear a lapel badge to get in. James Mixon
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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  Sorry for checking in so late after my OP. Yes, I was referring to Liverpool too and the number was counted from people turning up saying they were disfellowshipped or inactive, and were given lapel badges for security reasons.
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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  But don't they realise that the "love" shown is highly conditional and they will be DFed again if they adopt any modern values whatsoever, and that being told by the leaders to avoid all worldly contact is wrong?

  There's that scripture about a dog returning to it's vomit.